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May 8, 2012
I really hope we can get some sort of discussion on this. It's disappointing to see 100+ views and only three posts on some of these threads. We really need some involvement to get things off the ground here. Anyways,
So Rob and I met Saturday, had breakfast, and spent a small amount of time driving around looking at spaces. Today I went through my list of phone numbers, made some calls, and tried to see what was out there. Unfortunately the majority of the ones we looked at had minimum space requirements which I think at the moment are just too large.
I'm hoping that this thread will encourage others and myself to keep an eye out for places to move into. Right now I think we are shooting for ~1500 sq. ft. If we can grow within the building that would be great, if not thats okay. Keep your eyes peeled! If you see a space, write the number down, and share it here. If you want to call yourself go for it. Find out how much it is, if they have sprinklers, what the insurance costs are, etc. Let's see what we can come up with! Here's what I got:
Over on East Main and Palmer. They have a space that's 1320 sq. ft., $440/mo with a 1 year lease and a 1 mo. deposit. They do have a sprinkler system, and they require liability insurance of .5-1 million. This would be a basement facility.
St. Paul st.
http://rochester.craigslist.or…..68453.html This one obviously is off Craigslist. It's $425/mo and is 1400 sq. ft. It includes electric. I am waiting for a reply from the owner.
I am also waiting for a reply from this owner but this building and space really looks appealing. They have two different spaces, one being 2800 sq. ft. and the other being 2400. I am waiting to hear back on pricing. Here's the link.
1467 East Main
13,000 sq. ft. minimum at $5/ sq. ft. (Roughly $5,400/mo) Water mains, bathrooms, and require .5 million liability.
100 Carlson Rd. Winton/Culver neighborhood. 20,000 sq. ft. minimum at $6/ sq. ft. However that pricing includes all utilities. They have sprinklers throughout, heat, and A.C. 2 million insurance liability requirement.
Humbolt Building near TV Station
12,000 minimum sq. ft. minimum at $4.25/sq. ft. Sprinklers throughout, with a 3 million insurance liability requirement.
Outside of that I am still waiting to hear back from both the Blossom and Gleason buildings. I think this gives us a great start in terms of giving us an idea of what we need to look for, the different pricing based on neighborhoods, and what to expect insurance wise. Let me know what you all think, and please share what you see and/or hear about! Thanks.
May 8, 2012
Just so it's in one space. Here's from Rob's blog post.
2800ft² – Office/Commercial space (Rochester Downtown)
Super cool restored piano factory in the historic Cascade district. Five story 1840′s building with brand new mechanicals, brand new elevator, vintage lighting and sandblasted exposed brick and timber throughout. Lots of light and vintage vibe. Restored factory floors, new windows, new steel doors. Perfect for tech business, maker spaces, very flexible space. 2800 sq. ft. and 2400 sq. ft. spaces available. Can be combined. Utilities included in rent, which is negotiable. Come take a look! 370-95onesix.
1000ft² – Shop/Flex space mini-warehouse (great start up location) (FAIRPORT)
Pass/ Man Door
10′x10′ Overhead door w/ opener
Several 110 Electrical Outlets
Some 240/360 3 phase
Low cost radiant heat
cold water/ floor drain
Ample florescent lighting/ secure windows
Includes 4 parking spaces
Common area bathroom
Small office w/ overhead storage available
base rent incls. water/trash/property taxes/fire hazard insurance
1yr lease required. Last months rent and two months security deposit
4771 Dewey Avenue
5,000 SF for $0.50/sf/year ($208 per month)
Built in 1941, this massive industrial complex was originally the Odenbach Shipbuilding Facility where coastal tankers were manufactured for the war effort. Ships were built in sections, launched into Round Pond, and maneuvered into Lake Ontario where final assemble took place for the journey across the Atlantic. After the war, the Air Force used it to fabricate parts for B-52 Bombers. The facility is about 180,000 SF, has up to 80 feet ceilings, a 25-ton crane and is on 33 acres. Owner will lease for $.50 psf, (fifty cents psf) – yes, that’s practically free!
$200 / 980 ft² – Storage Barn for Rent (Victor)
19′ X 26′ barn , garage with cement floor and 9 X 7 overhead door and man door with a work shop , storage room and storage loft. Enough room to storage car or truck and have plenty of room other toys. Plus a full loft above for dry storage of almost anything you can carry up a set of stairs. Storage is allowed inside only, not around the barn.
2 Potomac Street, Rochester, NY 14611
1,000 SF $1.00 – $3.25/sf/year ($83 per month)
UP TO 300,000 SF Storage, Boats, Auto, RV, RENT AS LOW AS $1/SF. Small Contractor space from 1,200 SF up to 300,000 or more! LOTS OF POWER Site is within Empire Community Zone (ECZ). Large industrial warehouse and production facility. Plans for renovation underway. Potential change of use to retail, apartments etc. Huge amount of parking! 8 Truck Docks. 3 Drive-in Doors. 12 ft. to 30 ft. clearance. Wet and dry sprinkler systems.
1600 N Clinton Avenue, Rochester, NY 14621
200 – 1,960 SF$2.11 – $6.00/sf/year ($35 + per month)
Bastian Building is a turn of the century (c.1905) manufacturing facility. Some offices have period character. The warehouse spaces are heated and each has either a grade level OH door or a loading dock. Perfect for a contractors warehouse!
$600 / 1900ft² – Commercial/Industrial Space (North Side Front)
Space has gas heat and 220 electric. Private entrance with parking in front of access. Dock access. Small heated office space. Space is serviceable, roughly square and available immediately.
$850 / 1250ft² – Salt Road Industrial Park
Brand new Commercial Facilities located in Webster,NY
Conveniently located off Route 104 on Salt Road1,250 Sq. Feet and Larger Bays available
Each Bay includes:
-3 Phase Electric
-14′x 14′ Remote Controlled Overhead Doors
-16′ Ceilings with Fan
-Rest Room with Utility Sink
-Service Entrance Door
-6″ Concrete (for heavy equipment)
February 7, 2012
Thank you making phone calls Wyatt.
I don't want to sign a 1-year lease on a temporary space. I'd like to try and talk a landlord into agreeing to a 3 or 4 month commitment and then letting us go month-to-month after that. We may have to pay more, but I think it's either that or wait until we're better prepared to rent a permanent space (5,000 – 20,000 S.F.). Another possibility is to see if we can partner with local libraries and use their meeting rooms for awhile. There are plenty of classes and events we could hold in them (Arduino, 3D printing, arts & crafts, model rocket building, etc).
We're going to have to find a lawyer soon and form a non-profit so we can rent a space and purchase liability insurance. I'll start looking this week for someone who has experience setting up non-profits, who's affordable and personable. I can get a list of lawyers from SCORE that they've screened to be affordable and small business friendly. I also have another source where we might be able to obtain some personal recommendations.
I agree with what you said somewhere else on the forum about needing to be more people involved. We have a lot of interest and things are moving faster than I thought. We really need to work much harder on our business plan and I think we're already pedaling almost as fast as we can. I don't want to lose 2 or 3 months of momentum while we (I) do that.
Any chance we can get you to make one more call and see what's available in the Hungerford Building?
June 23, 2012
I don't know about everyone else, but I get a bit overwhelmed by these lists. I just can't process all the info and keep it all in my head to compare. I've started a spreadsheet on google docs we can all look at and edit (if I did the settings right). And then we can do things like sort by rent and such! Here's the link:
February 7, 2012
Here's a good web site for finding commercial properties for lease in Rochester. Ignore the pop-up saying you have to register to view listings.
May 8, 2012
Very cool Jon. I understand your feeling, but I still think it will be good to post findings here as well and we can update the sheet as necessary. Great idea, and thanks for making it public so we can all pitch in.
Rob I think that's on point about getting stuck in a lease. I like the idea about the libraries. I can't remember who posted it, but the Flying Squirrel on Clarissa st. (Next to me) is actually a good place for community meetings. They have a couple different spaces and I think those might be good meeting places too. I will try to give them a call and see what their criteria/costs are if any.
Sorry I can't say more. Over my head at the moment. Will check in when/if I can.
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